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August 6th, 2006

Loving The Sinner…(continued)

The antigay junk science of the religious right often strikes me like a bunch of drunks in a bar trying to see who can out bullshit everyone.  I’m telling you guys, homos are all pedophiles.  The average homo has sex with a thousand underage kids in his lifetime…did I say a thousand?  I meant ten thousand.  In a day.  During their lunch break.  That’s why they’re all school teachers.  I’m telling you.  Where’s my drink?  The whole entire fucking NEA is a bunch of liberal homos.  And they’re communists too.  Communist Islamic terrorists.  They want to teach six year olds how to use dildos.  No shit…I did a study that proves it.  They should pass an amendment closing all the public schools and making home schooling mandatory for everyone.  Last year the NEA passed out a million dildos to elementary school kids.  It’s true.  And they panted them to look like candy canes.  FOX news did a story on it…

One of these days, I figured, they’d start yapping that we’re having sex with infants too.  Well…guess what

An organizer for the conservative Renew America is under fire for linking homosexuality with infant pedophilia.

"The newest thing in Chicago, it’s becoming a trend, and you’re gonna find this hard to believe…sex with infants," Guy Adams told an Internet radio show hosted by fellow conservative Stacy L. Harp.

Adams (pictured) offered no evidence to back up his claims of infant pedophilia.

He appeared on Harp’s program on Wednesday to discuss the recent Gay Games in Chicago and embarked on a nearly 30 minute conversation with Harp to attack gays.

"It’s not enough that they have…you know when you engage in perversion, and homosexuality is perversion, we don’t hate the gays mind you, we don’t hate them, we hate what they’re doing…pretty soon that perversion is like addiction, it’s not enough, so you need to graduate to something else. You need to move on. So now they’re having sex with animals, a small group that’s getting bigger, sex with infants, sex in the street in Chicago out in the open, it’s just getting more and more perverted."

Adams dismissed the contributions of GLBT people to society by saying, "what contributions, AIDS, pornography?" 

He also referred to gay people as "a very angry and violent group when confronted with the truth."

Angry and violent are we?  Well here’s how Adams responded to blogger Joe Brummer, after Brummer demanded an apology.

—– Original Message —–

From "Guy Adams" <GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us>
To "Joe Brummer" <joebrummer@joebrummer.com>
Cc <stacyharp@gmail.com>
Sent Friday, August 04, 2006 216 AM
Subject Reply From Joe
    

What’s your point Joe?  It sex with babies the truth; it IS happening, so what’s your point?

Let’s just assume that gays are not screwing babies. Okay then, what ARE gays doing? Can you describe it for me and the public???

If you won’t describe it, then I will. Openly and in a national forum.

One thing you will quickly discover about me — I CANNOT be intimidated nor will I retreat.  I will stand my ground no matter what.

YOU brought this war to me and I will finish it.  And there are many, many more like me too.

We simply don’t care about you petty proclamations, not does Alan.

You woke up the wrong guy.

~Guy
    

 —– Original Message —–

From "Guy Adams" <GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us>
To <joebrummer@joebrummer.com>
Cc <stacyharp@gmail.com>
Sent Friday, August 04, 2006 329 AM
Subject Re From Joe

Dear Joe,

You are intentionally deceived.

Whether I reach gays or not is not that important to me. Yes, I hope that God is able to reach them, but at the end of the day, I have been placed at war with your likes, and that was YOUR choice.

In other words, I declare war against you and your kind.

I did not desire this war, but you thrust it upon us. It was your call.

Having said that, I say to you (now more than ever) that I am singularly determined to see your agenda defeated, and it will be.

Not that I am perfect — far from it, but your behavior is explicitly labeled by God as an "abomination".  T\here’s no getting around that judgment.

Say what you will and argue as you must, but at the end of the day, God declares your behavior as totally unacceptable to Him.

God will not change His position on that, as He has clearly stated, Jesus is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow.

He will never affirm homosexuality.

Nor will I.

~Guy

On Thu, August 3, 2006 856, joebrummer@joebrummer.com said

> Dear Guy,
> Sorry you feel that way.   While your busy trying to get God to call me,
> you are also out in the public eye making outlandish and false claims
> about gays and lesbians.    Injustice like that needs to be brought to the
> light of the public eye, or as I commonly say, the sunlight of justice.
> I cannot change your mind about gays and lesbians, although I can
> certainly say I have never had sex with animals or infants.   Your claims
> are disgusting and your message is evil.   Talk about bearing false
> witness.
> You will never reach gays and lesbians with these immoral acts.  Your
> approach is awful.   Sadly you discredit anything truthful you could say
> with the utterly outrageous claims like this.     Stacy informs me that
> part 2 of the show is worse and that your claims there are eve more
> outrageous.
> Your mentality is nothing more than a call to arms that some sick minds
> will be happy to take.  Over the past six weeks there have been some
> violent attacks on gays and lesbians espcially in San Diego.    Where do
> you think people get this notion tht they need to "get the homos"?   Is it
> perhaps your false messages about gays being after children?    Is it your
> false notion we are the biggest danger since the civil war?
> Your message is wrong and it will be paid for in the blood of GLBT people.
>    Perhaps you should think before you speak.  If you think you are doing
> god’s works, you are sadly mistaken.    God would have no part in putting
> his children in danger they way you have done.
> Joe

On Thu Aug 3 1:19 , ‘Guy Adams’  sent

Joe,

Initially, I had a great sense of compassion for you and I hoped that God would be able to reach you.

But after your actions in shutting me down on your blog, and esp after reading your recent pleas to Stacy, I am of the persuasion that you are what God calls a "reprobate", beyond His willingness to save.

Over and out,

~Guy
    
~Guy Adams

Deputy National Grassroots Director
(Alan Keyes’ RenewAmerica)
    
Email GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us

    

—– Original Message —–

From "Guy Adams" <GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us>
To "Joe Brummer" <joebrummer@joebrummer.com>
Sent Friday, August 04, 2006 257 AM
Subject Re From Joe / you lose.

You and your remarks are inconsequential.

At the end of the day, you lose.

~TGuy
    

—– Original Message —–

From "Guy Adams" <GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us>
To "Joe Brummer" <joebrummer@joebrummer.com>
Cc <stacyharp@gmail.com>
Sent Friday, August 04, 2006 222 AM
Subject Re From Joe
    

Your comments are not even worth me read. I’ll bypass.  WHO ARE YOU? WHAT’S YOUR NAME?

In the course of a few short months, no one will want to mention your name out of sheer fear.

You CANNOT tear my words apart because you are speaking from the moral low ground and because my words spoke the truth.

In other words, you have no firm ground on which to stand. You are a coward. I initially had a heart for you but you have proven yourself to be a reprobate.

The war is on.  As Reagan said: We win, you lose.

Understand that quite well, because in a true war (unlike Iraq), all means available to me will be used.

You targeted the wrong guy, but I thank God that you did.

Enjoy your brief stay in the spotlight.

Nice guy.  Calm.  Reasoned.  Compassionate.  Loving the sinner, while hating the sin.  Uhm….not.  There’s more on Joe Brummer’s site.

There it is.  There is the hot burning core of hate not far beneath all that pious rhetoric about loving the sinner, and hating the sin.  And that kind of thing, I want to emphasize, is nothing new.  Over and over I saw words just like those on Usenet, back as far as 1993.  Paranoid…threatening…hysterical…and not just from the usual gutter trash, but from…well…otherwise fine and upstanding pillars of the community.  People just like Mr. Guy Adams, who, as it turns out, not only works for Renew America, but also is, or was as of January 2005, a Deputy Sheriff in Cook County Illinois.

  

(Thanks to Pam’s House Blend for the catch) I’m sure he treats the gay and lesbian citizens of Cook County he encounters during the course of his work with dignity and respect.  Well…actually I’m not.

More on this on the Cartoon Page tomorrow…

One Response to “Loving The Sinner…(continued)”

  1. Bill S Says:

    This guy is a flippin’ loony bird. Even by Renew America standards. The crap about how “You started the war. That was YOUR choice” sounds to me like an abusive husband who says his wife “made him” hit her.
    He also sounds, frankly, like a terrorist. Joe Brummer should take these e-mails very seriously, and report them to local authorities, or possibly even the FBI. This goes beyond merely expressing an opinion-it sounds like a threat. Guy Adams is an unhinged, potentially dangerous man.
    And Stacy Harp is an idiot, not just for believing his claims without question, but for attempting to defend them as well.

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