{"id":7723,"date":"2014-03-28T18:21:25","date_gmt":"2014-03-28T23:21:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/?p=7723"},"modified":"2014-03-28T18:50:24","modified_gmt":"2014-03-28T23:50:24","slug":"lets-talk-just-not-about-what-we-need-to-talk-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/7723","title":{"rendered":"Let’s Talk…Just Not About What We Need To Talk About"},"content":{"rendered":"

I got this link to a blog post from someone working at Mozilla…<\/p>\n

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What’s Happening Inside \u00a0Mozilla<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/blockquote>\n
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I won’t quote from it lest I be accused later of selective editing. Go read it for yourself, the blogger is obviously distraught over the sudden tidal wave of anger being directed at the company for putting a man at the top who gave a thousand bucks to support Proposition 8. \u00a0On the other hand, you’d think from reading his links that all the happy gays and gay friendly people at Mozilla have no problems at all with a guy who dropped a grand to cut off the ring fingers of gay couples in California.<\/p>\n

PC Magazine wrote the following about the controversy<\/a>…<\/p>\n

“Mozilla’s new CEO this week expressed “sorrow” for having caused pain by making a donation in support of California’s Prop. 8, which sought to ban gay marriage. And while he made an “active commitment to equality,” Brendan Eich did not elaborate on his beliefs regarding gay marriage and the LBGT community…”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A thousand bucks might have seemed chump change to this guy but it’s still serious money, and it shows a serious commitment to a belief that homosexuals are at best damaged goods that don’t actually love and aren’t fully human. There is no argument about protecting the institution of marriage as being about one man and one woman<\/em> that does not have as its bedrock the image of The Homosexual as some sort of defiling pornographic cesspool flung into a sacred ground. \u00a0Marriage is about love and family…homosexuals are degenerates that just have sex, molest children and spread disease. \u00a0That was what Proposition 8 was about from beginning to end. \u00a0It was an attack, not just on the right of same sex couples to marry, but on the humanity of gay people. It was a multi-million dollar hammer brought down against the very idea that there could possibly be anything sacred about the feelings of love and devotion gay couples feel, waged by people who think we are a cancer on human existence. \u00a0And Eich bought a thousand dollar share in that campaign.<\/p>\n

But at Mozilla according to this blogger, what they’re having is a discussion about freedom of speech verses equality. That’s the argument the religious right wants everyone to have and it’s exactly the wrong argument to be having. You can give your product away but throw your character into the gutter and you’ll be years cleaning it back up. And this man still doesn’t seem to think he did anything wrong.<\/p>\n

That’s the problem here. If they’re having a discussion about rights at Mozilla they’re having the wrong discussion.They should be talking about character. That PC Magazine article says that he expressed “sorrow” and did not elaborate on his beliefs regarding same sex marriage and LGBT people. \u00a0Tell you what…read His Own Words<\/a> and then tell me with a straight face that this man has any regrets about what he and countless others did to their gay neighbors in California. Everything is sickeningly there in plain sight, to anyone who has fought this battle:<\/p>\n

…the donation does not in itself constitute evidence of animosity. Those asserting this are not providing a reasoned argument, rather they are labeling dissenters to cast them out of polite society. To such assertions, I can only respond: “no”.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Hahahahaha… \u00a0Where have I heard that before? \u00a0You’re just calling me a hateful bigot because I disagree with you!<\/em> \u00a0No Brandan, ‘bigot’ is a perfectly good old fashioned English word and it means something. \u00a0And something else that has some meaning is you declaring you won’t discuss your involvement with Proposition 8 at the same time you’re bellyaching about having a rational discussion. \u00a0Actually Brandan they had that rational discussion at the trial and \u00a0David Boies said it best when he said that the witness stand is a lonely place to lie. But it’s not the only lonely place and you are not a mere dissenter. Freedom of speech is one thing. A thousand dollars to a campaign to cut people’s ring fingers off isn’t mere speech. \u00a0 \u00a0But let it be said the speech you dropped a grand on is bad enough. That money went to ads that played the Gays Are Coming For Your Children card!<\/em> \u00a0<\/strong> Living with the lies you paid a thousand bucks for come home to roost is another lonely place. You could renounce them, but it seems you won’t, and that makes them your lies too.<\/p>\n

Lies are a kind of speech, yes. Hate mongering is a kind of speech, yes. But what kind of speech, and what kind of person utters it? \u00a0If they are having a free speech verses equal rights discussion at Mozilla they are having the wrong discussion.<\/p>\n

[Edited a tad for clarity…<\/em>]<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I got this link to a blog post from someone working at Mozilla… What’s Happening Inside \u00a0Mozilla I won’t quote from it lest I be accused later of selective editing. Go read it for yourself, the blogger is obviously distraught over the sudden tidal wave of anger being directed at the company for putting a […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,65],"tags":[22,16,90],"class_list":["post-7723","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-thumping-my-pulpit","tag-fighting-back","tag-marriage","tag-the-human-gutter"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7723","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7723"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7723\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7723"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7723"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7723"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}