{"id":3428,"date":"2009-03-18T12:17:45","date_gmt":"2009-03-18T17:17:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/?p=3428"},"modified":"2009-03-18T12:18:36","modified_gmt":"2009-03-18T17:18:36","slug":"when-your-marriage-becomes-someone-elses-political-battleground","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/3428","title":{"rendered":"When Your Marriage Becomes Someone Else&#8217;s Political Battleground"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you are still thinking that the fight for freedom to marry is something that only affects gay couples, you&#8217;d better start thinking again&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.philly.com\/philly\/hp\/news_update\/20090318_Are_they_married__It_depends______.html?viewAll=y\"><strong>Are they married? It depends<\/strong><\/a><strong> . .<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In 2004, Michelle, a project manager for a financial services company, and Marc, a draftsman, planned to marry in Philadelphia and get their license in Bucks County &#8211; a decision influenced only by the office&#8217;s proximity to their home in Hatboro.<\/p>\n<p>They were acting within the law, of course. Couples can buy their marriage licenses in any one of Pennsylvania&#8217;s 67 counties and hold their ceremonies in any other.<\/p>\n<p>So how, the Toths now wonder, is their marriage considered legal in Montgomery County, but possibly null and void in Bucks?<\/p>\n<p>The short answer is that the people responsible for issuing marriage licenses &#8211; the 67 elected clerks of Orphans Court &#8211; are at odds with one another. And the growing ranks of couples using a nontraditional officiant or no officiant at all are getting caught in the conflict.<\/p>\n<p>On one side are clerks, such as those in Bucks and Delaware counties, who want the state marriage-license law tightened. They say the institution of marriage is being sullied, if not undermined, by nontraditional ministers and those who they believe are irreligious, liberal couples seeking to stretch the law.<\/p>\n<p>On the other side are clerks, including those in Philadelphia, Chester, and Montgomery counties, who say the law is clear as long as it is read without bias. Their position has the backing of the American Civil Liberties Union. (This issue does not exist in New Jersey.)<\/p>\n<p>Once, getting the license was not among the wedding minutiae that might drive a sane person to &quot;go bridal.&quot; But now the process has become complicated and, some would say, needlessly politicized.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Pennsylvania has two types of marriage license:&nbsp; One that involves some registered official, either a clergyman or a judge.&nbsp; The other is a &quot;self-uniting&quot; license, which is used by couples who wish to take their vows in the presence of witnesses, but without a the clergy or judge.&nbsp; Quakers, being the most frequent self-uniters in the state, this license has come to be known as the &quot;Quaker&quot; license.&nbsp; But note, it isn&#8217;t just for Quakers.<\/p>\n<p>The clerks are trying to get rid of the self-uniting license, or severely restrict it to Quakers or other approved religious groups only&#8230;they claim to protect the interests of the married couples.&nbsp; They&#8217;re telling couples they can&#8217;t use the self-uniting license unless they&#8217;re Quakers, and warning couples who have already been married using that license to come in with a real minister for a re-marriage.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>The ACLU is fighting the clerks over this and so far they&#8217;ve won every court case.&nbsp; But the clerks are apparently ignoring the courts and doing what they damn well please.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>In an Allegheny County case, a federal judge ruled that self-uniting licenses were not just for Quakers &#8211; and that clerks were barred from asking religious questions.<\/p>\n<p>In Philadelphia, Bucks, and Montgomery Counties, judges issued rulings that conflicted with York County&#8217;s. Clergy from the Universal Life Church were indeed authorized to solemnize marriages, Bucks County Court Judge C. Theodore Fritsch Jr. ruled in December 2008.<\/p>\n<p>Still, Bucks and Delaware Counties are ignoring the rulings in the ACLU lawsuits.<\/p>\n<p>Reilly says she is protecting engaged couples from future problems. Hugh Donaghue of Delaware County goes a step further. He requires marriage-license applicants to supply Social Security numbers (not required under federal law) because he suspects that some foreign nationals see the marriage license as a valid form of identification.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Getting a marriage license allows you to establish identification for other purposes and change your status in the country,&quot; Donaghue says.<\/p>\n<p>And, speaking of identification, Donaghue&#8217;s office requires a photo ID, and he is suspicious when individuals (mostly followers of Islam) don&#8217;t have them.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;They say their religious beliefs do not allow them to have their photos taken,&quot; Donaghue says.<\/p>\n<p>Like Reilly, Donaghue says his interest is in protecting well-meaning individuals.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Pull the other one.&nbsp; They don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s ass about the welfare of couples in love.&nbsp; They care about this:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>They say the institution of marriage is being sullied, if not undermined, by nontraditional ministers and those who they believe are irreligious, liberal couples seeking to stretch the law.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>That&#8217;s the problem here.&nbsp; That&#8217;s the only problem here. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What you need to understand about the fight over same-sex marriage is that it isn&#8217;t a fight over same-sex marriage.&nbsp; It&#8217;s a fight over the freedom to marry.&nbsp; My freedom and yours.&nbsp; If you have been sitting back watching the religious right take a torch to the marriages of same-sex couples because you didn&#8217;t figure it had anything to do with you, I have two words for you: You&#8217;re next.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you are still thinking that the fight for freedom to marry is something that only affects gay couples, you&#8217;d better start thinking again&#8230; Are they married? It depends . . 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