{"id":295,"date":"2006-08-06T09:01:18","date_gmt":"2006-08-06T14:01:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/295"},"modified":"2006-08-06T09:08:20","modified_gmt":"2006-08-06T14:08:20","slug":"loving-the-sinnercontinued-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/295","title":{"rendered":"Loving The Sinner&#8230;(continued)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The antigay junk science of the religious right often strikes me like a bunch of drunks in a bar trying to see who can out bullshit everyone.&nbsp; <em>I&#8217;m telling you guys, homos are all pedophiles.&nbsp; The average homo has sex with a thousand underage kids in his lifetime&#8230;did I say a thousand?&nbsp; I meant ten thousand.&nbsp; In a day.&nbsp; During their lunch break.&nbsp; That&#8217;s why they&#8217;re all school teachers.&nbsp; I&#8217;m telling you.&nbsp; Where&#8217;s my drink?&nbsp; The whole entire fucking NEA is a bunch of liberal homos.&nbsp; And they&#8217;re communists too.&nbsp; Communist Islamic terrorists.&nbsp; They want to teach six year olds how to use dildos.&nbsp; No shit&#8230;I did a study that proves it.&nbsp; They should pass an amendment closing all the public schools and making home schooling mandatory for everyone.&nbsp; Last year the NEA passed out a million dildos to elementary school kids.&nbsp; It&#8217;s true.&nbsp; And they panted them to look like candy canes.&nbsp; FOX news did a story on it&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>One of these days, I figured, they&#8217;d start yapping that we&#8217;re having sex with infants too.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/365gay.com\/Newscon06\/08\/080306renew.htm\">Well&#8230;guess what<\/a>&#8230;<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>An organizer for the conservative Renew America is under fire for linking homosexuality with infant pedophilia.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;The newest thing in Chicago, it&#8217;s becoming a trend, and you&#8217;re gonna find this hard to believe&#8230;sex with infants,&quot; Guy Adams told an Internet radio show hosted by fellow conservative Stacy L. Harp.<\/p>\n<p>Adams (pictured) offered no evidence to back up his claims of infant pedophilia.<\/p>\n<p>He appeared on Harp&#8217;s program on Wednesday to discuss the recent Gay Games in Chicago and embarked on a nearly 30 minute <a href=\"http:\/\/media40b.libsyn.com\/lndueJl2bXmTe2x4aHaco2ukYHSZ\/podcasts\/sharp\/2006-08-02-10-47-41.mp3\">conversation<\/a> with Harp to attack gays.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;It&#8217;s not enough that they have&#8230;you know when you engage in perversion, and homosexuality is perversion, we don&#8217;t hate the gays mind you, we don&#8217;t hate them, we hate what they&#8217;re doing&#8230;pretty soon that perversion is like addiction, it&#8217;s not enough, so you need to graduate to something else. You need to move on. So now they&#8217;re having sex with animals, a small group that&#8217;s getting bigger, sex with infants, sex in the street in Chicago out in the open, it&#8217;s just getting more and more perverted.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Adams dismissed the contributions of GLBT people to society by saying, &quot;what contributions, AIDS, pornography?&quot;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>He also referred to gay people as &quot;a very angry and violent group when confronted with the truth.&quot;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Angry and violent are we?&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joebrummer.com\/adams-emails.htm\">Well here&#8217;s how Adams responded to blogger Joe Brummer<\/a>, after Brummer demanded an apology.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>From &quot;Guy Adams&quot; &lt;GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us&gt;<br \/>\nTo &quot;Joe Brummer&quot; &lt;joebrummer@joebrummer.com&gt;<br \/>\nCc &lt;stacyharp@gmail.com&gt;<br \/>\nSent Friday, August 04, 2006 216 AM<br \/>\nSubject Reply From Joe<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>What&#8217;s your point Joe?&nbsp; It sex with babies the truth; it IS happening, so what&#8217;s your point?<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s just assume that gays are not screwing babies. Okay then, what ARE gays doing? Can you describe it for me and the public???<\/p>\n<p>If you won&#8217;t describe it, then I will. Openly and in a national forum.<\/p>\n<p>One thing you will quickly discover about me &#8212; I CANNOT be intimidated nor will I retreat.&nbsp; I will stand my ground no matter what.<\/p>\n<p>YOU brought this war to me and I will finish it.&nbsp; And there are many, many more like me too.<\/p>\n<p>We simply don&#8217;t care about you petty proclamations, not does Alan.<\/p>\n<p>You woke up the wrong guy.<\/p>\n<p>~Guy<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>From &quot;Guy Adams&quot; &lt;GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us&gt;<br \/>\nTo &lt;joebrummer@joebrummer.com&gt;<br \/>\nCc &lt;stacyharp@gmail.com&gt;<br \/>\nSent Friday, August 04, 2006 329 AM<br \/>\nSubject Re From Joe<\/p>\n<p>Dear Joe,<\/p>\n<p>You are intentionally deceived.<\/p>\n<p>Whether I reach gays or not is not that important to me. Yes, I hope that God is able to reach them, but at the end of the day, I have been placed at war with your likes, and that was YOUR choice.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, I declare war against you and your kind.<\/p>\n<p>I did not desire this war, but you thrust it upon us. It was your call.<\/p>\n<p>Having said that, I say to you (now more than ever) that I am singularly determined to see your agenda defeated, and it will be.<\/p>\n<p>Not that I am perfect &#8212; far from it, but your behavior is explicitly labeled by God as an &quot;abomination&quot;.&nbsp; T\\here&#8217;s no getting around that judgment.<\/p>\n<p>Say what you will and argue as you must, but at the end of the day, God declares your behavior as totally unacceptable to Him.<\/p>\n<p>God will not change His position on that, as He has clearly stated, Jesus is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p>He will never affirm homosexuality.<\/p>\n<p>Nor will I.<\/p>\n<p>~Guy<\/p>\n<p>On Thu, August 3, 2006 856, joebrummer@joebrummer.com said<\/p>\n<p>&gt; Dear Guy,<br \/>\n&gt; Sorry you feel that way.&nbsp;&nbsp; While your busy trying to get God to call me,<br \/>\n&gt; you are also out in the public eye making outlandish and false claims<br \/>\n&gt; about gays and lesbians.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Injustice like that needs to be brought to the<br \/>\n&gt; light of the public eye, or as I commonly say, the sunlight of justice.<br \/>\n&gt; I cannot change your mind about gays and lesbians, although I can<br \/>\n&gt; certainly say I have never had sex with animals or infants.&nbsp;&nbsp; Your claims<br \/>\n&gt; are disgusting and your message is evil.&nbsp;&nbsp; Talk about bearing false<br \/>\n&gt; witness.<br \/>\n&gt; You will never reach gays and lesbians with these immoral acts.&nbsp; Your<br \/>\n&gt; approach is awful.&nbsp;&nbsp; Sadly you discredit anything truthful you could say<br \/>\n&gt; with the utterly outrageous claims like this.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Stacy informs me that<br \/>\n&gt; part 2 of the show is worse and that your claims there are eve more<br \/>\n&gt; outrageous.<br \/>\n&gt; Your mentality is nothing more than a call to arms that some sick minds<br \/>\n&gt; will be happy to take.&nbsp; Over the past six weeks there have been some<br \/>\n&gt; violent attacks on gays and lesbians espcially in San Diego.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Where do<br \/>\n&gt; you think people get this notion tht they need to &quot;get the homos&quot;?&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it<br \/>\n&gt; perhaps your false messages about gays being after children?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Is it your<br \/>\n&gt; false notion we are the biggest danger since the civil war?<br \/>\n&gt; Your message is wrong and it will be paid for in the blood of GLBT people.<br \/>\n&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Perhaps you should think before you speak.&nbsp; If you think you are doing<br \/>\n&gt; god&#8217;s works, you are sadly mistaken.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; God would have no part in putting<br \/>\n&gt; his children in danger they way you have done.<br \/>\n&gt; Joe<\/p>\n<p>On Thu Aug 3 1:19 , &#8216;Guy Adams&#8217;&nbsp; sent<\/p>\n<p>Joe,<\/p>\n<p>Initially, I had a great sense of compassion for you and I hoped that God would be able to reach you.<\/p>\n<p>But after your actions in shutting me down on your blog, and esp after reading your recent pleas to Stacy, I am of the persuasion that you are what God calls a &quot;reprobate&quot;, beyond His willingness to save.<\/p>\n<p>Over and out,<\/p>\n<p>~Guy<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\n~Guy Adams<\/p>\n<p>Deputy National Grassroots Director<br \/>\n(Alan Keyes&#8217; RenewAmerica)<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br \/>\nEmail GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>From &quot;Guy Adams&quot; &lt;GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us&gt;<br \/>\nTo &quot;Joe Brummer&quot; &lt;joebrummer@joebrummer.com&gt;<br \/>\nSent Friday, August 04, 2006 257 AM<br \/>\nSubject Re From Joe \/ you lose.<\/p>\n<p>\nYou and your remarks are inconsequential.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the day, you lose.<\/p>\n<p>~TGuy<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8211; Original Message &#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>From &quot;Guy Adams&quot; &lt;GuyAdams@RenewAmerica.us&gt;<br \/>\nTo &quot;Joe Brummer&quot; &lt;joebrummer@joebrummer.com&gt;<br \/>\nCc &lt;stacyharp@gmail.com&gt;<br \/>\nSent Friday, August 04, 2006 222 AM<br \/>\nSubject Re From Joe<br \/>\n&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Your comments are not even worth me read. I&#8217;ll bypass.&nbsp; WHO ARE YOU? WHAT&#8217;S YOUR NAME?<\/p>\n<p>In the course of a few short months, no one will want to mention your name out of sheer fear.<\/p>\n<p>You CANNOT tear my words apart because you are speaking from the moral low ground and because my words spoke the truth.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, you have no firm ground on which to stand. You are a coward. I initially had a heart for you but you have proven yourself to be a reprobate.<\/p>\n<p>The war is on.&nbsp; As Reagan said: We win, you lose.<\/p>\n<p>Understand that quite well, because in a true war (unlike Iraq), all means available to me will be used.<\/p>\n<p>You targeted the wrong guy, but I thank God that you did.<\/p>\n<p>Enjoy your brief stay in the spotlight.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Nice guy.&nbsp; Calm.&nbsp; Reasoned.&nbsp; Compassionate.&nbsp; Loving the sinner, while hating the sin.&nbsp; Uhm&#8230;.not.&nbsp; <a href=\"http:\/\/joebrummer.com\/WordPress\/\">There&#8217;s more on Joe Brummer&#8217;s site<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>There it is.&nbsp; There is the hot burning core of hate not far beneath all that pious rhetoric about loving the sinner, and hating the sin.&nbsp; And that kind of thing, I want to emphasize, is nothing new.&nbsp; Over and over I saw words just like those on Usenet, back as far as 1993.&nbsp; Paranoid&#8230;threatening&#8230;hysterical&#8230;and not just from the usual gutter trash, but from&#8230;well&#8230;otherwise fine and upstanding pillars of the community.&nbsp; People just like Mr. Guy Adams, who, as it turns out, not only works for Renew America, but also is, or was as of January 2005, a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.outletradio.com\/grantham\/archives\/001506.php\">Deputy Sheriff in Cook County Illinois<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"119\" height=\"152\" align=\"bottom\" alt=\" \" src=\"http:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/images\/guyadams.jpg\" \/>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">(<a href=\"http:\/\/www.pamspaulding.com\/weblog\/2006\/08\/why-we-cannot-reason-with-fringe.html\">Thanks to Pam&#8217;s House Blend for the catch<\/a>) I&#8217;m sure he treats the gay and lesbian citizens of Cook County he encounters during the course of his work with dignity and respect.&nbsp; Well&#8230;actually I&#8217;m not.<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\">More on this on the Cartoon Page tomorrow&#8230;<\/p>\n<p align=\"left\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The antigay junk science of the religious right often strikes me like a bunch of drunks in a bar trying to see who can out bullshit everyone.&nbsp; I&#8217;m telling you guys, homos are all pedophiles.&nbsp; The average homo has sex with a thousand underage kids in his lifetime&#8230;did I say a thousand?&nbsp; I meant ten [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[32,20,6],"class_list":["post-295","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-hate","tag-the-american-gutter","tag-the-right-wing-mindset"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/295","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=295"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/295\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=295"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=295"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=295"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}