{"id":14079,"date":"2026-01-02T19:19:23","date_gmt":"2026-01-03T00:19:23","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/?p=14079"},"modified":"2026-01-03T12:00:10","modified_gmt":"2026-01-03T17:00:10","slug":"love-that-was-lost-love-that-could-never-be","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/brucegarrett.com\/brucelog\/14079","title":{"rendered":"Love That Was Lost &#8211; Love That Could Never Be"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I haven\u2019t actually watched <em>Stranger Things<\/em>, only clips of it on Facebook or YouTube. So going into this I have a patchy and disjointed understanding of its characters, its plots, and themes. So corrections to anything that follows are welcome.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">That entire genre of horror and monsters is mostly a big turn off for me, having experienced my kidhood watching the old black &amp; white monster and big bug movies of the 1950s on the TV after school. Now it\u2019s all CGI and gore and I\u2019m not into gore. Plus, the thinking seems to be now that scary movies have to make you feel powerless against evil or they\u2019re just not scary enough. I seriously object to that.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I saw the online talk about <em>Stranger Things<\/em> ever since the first episodes appeared when I began to see it as less a sort of <em>Twilight Zone<\/em> or <em>Outer Limits<\/em> kind of thing and more like an <em>IT<\/em> thing I just let it slide. But more recently I started seeing online talk about two of the characters, Mike Wheeler and Will Byers, possibly having a gay romance, and it began to get my attention.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The proponents of this theory had clips of the behavior of these two that were very convincing. But I just expect that anything coming out of Hollywood or big bucks entertainment won\u2019t treat us or our relationships seriously, so I figured at some point someone would put the hammer down on any such speculation like they did for <em>Luca<\/em>. I was pretty sure it would come to nothing.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ve posted this Vito Russo quote so often everyone reading me is probably very tired of it, but here it is again: <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cIt is an old stereotype, that homosexuality has to do only with sex while heterosexuality is multifaceted and embraces love and romance.\u201d <\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So when the finale came and went and no same sex romance I wrote it off to the usual entertainment establishment homophobia. Oh sure, progress has been made. We\u2019re not pathetic sissies or psycho murderers anymore. We can exist, just not have love lives like real people do.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We can even have coming out moments now on screen. I began seeing clips of Will\u2019s big speech about how afraid he has always been to be out to anyone, and how after he made that speech everyone in the room said how much they still loved him, and a great big group hug ensued. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I was actually very happy to see that. But because of the nature of that short clip based view of the story, I missed its significance. And that significance was, I believe now, a major milestone in how audiences not only see us as people, but in the context of the overall series plot, it also spoke to the deeper meaning of our civil rights struggle.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This story takes place in the 1980s, which while it was better than previous decades, was still a very hostile time. That\u2019s something younger audiences aren\u2019t quite getting when they watch that scene, and start wondering online about why it was made such a big deal in the story. But that\u2019s only part of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Not to go into any great detail about the complex plot of this series, but Will was being mind-manipulated by an evil entity (Vecna) that wanted to eradicate all life on Earth. As I understand it (remember I still haven\u2019t watched the entire thing) at the heart of this story is a wormhole (they call it the Upside Down) linking our Earth with a dark desolate mirror Earth full of monsters, trying to get into our Earth. Vecna wants to use these monsters and the wormhole to eradicate all life on Earth (out of, I assume, just pure hate). It\u2019s been using Will\u2019s fear of how his family and friends will react to him if they find out he\u2019s gay, to alienate Will from his friends, and his friends from each other. And especially from Mike.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Will has a crush on Mike. Mike sees his relationship with Will as they are best friends. He loves Will, but its <em>Philia<\/em>, not <em>Eros<\/em>. Mike\u2019s heart belongs to a girl, El. And seeing it is breaking Will\u2019s heart, and causing stress in their friendship that Mike can\u2019t figure out and Will can\u2019t bring himself to be honest about. There&#8217;s a scene where Mike and Will are being driven to Nevada to find El, and Will is telling Mike that if El seemed like she was being mean or pushing him away it&#8217;s because she knows she&#8217;s different&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p>This is from a transcript of the scene I found online. Not sure if it&#8217;s from the script&#8230; [<em>Update&#8230;<\/em> It is from the script]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">[Will] (haltingly) &#8230;and when you&#8217;re different, sometimes you feel like a mistake.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The pain is real. His own words cut deeply to the core.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><em>I hate who I am<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">On the verge of tears, he turns back to Mike:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">[Will] But you make her feel like she&#8217;s not a mistake at all.\u00a0 Like she&#8217;s better for being different. And that gives her the courage to fight on. If she was mean to you, or she seemed like she was pushing you away, it&#8217;s because she&#8217;s scared of losing you, like you&#8217;re scared of losing her. And if she was going to lose you, I think she&#8217;d rather just get it over quick. Like ripping off a Band-Aid\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Now it&#8217;s Mike who doesn&#8217;t get it.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">[Will] (CONT&#8217;D) (convincingly) So, yeah, El needs you Mike. And she <em>always<\/em> will.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Mike&#8217;s face brightens.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">[Mike] Yeah?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">[Will] (breathlessly) Yeah.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Will FORCES out a SMILE and Mike returns with a NOD. <em>Thanks, I needed that.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">Will turns to the window full of emptiness that goes on forever. HE STIFLES HIS SOBS, finally resigned to knowing that he just ripped off the Band-Aid.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vecna has been using kids since the start of the series because, as it admits, kids are easier to manipulate. And it is using Will\u2019s fear of being outed to mind-manipulate him into doing things, to cause strife among the friends, and their friends, and keep them all week and easy to manipulate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The scene where Will comes out to everyone in the room, terrified, but determined to do it and take whatever comes of it, is pure gold on several levels. So I\u2019m told shooting it took two twelve hour days to get it where it had to be emotionally for the actor playing Will Byers, Noah Schnapp, and also the others. I\u2019m quoting the speech here in it\u2019s entirety because it only works as a whole.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I haven&#8217;t told any of you this because I don&#8217;t want you to see me differently. But the truth is&#8230; I am. I am different.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I just pretended like I wasn&#8217;t because I didn&#8217;t want to be. I wanted to be like everyone else. I wanted to be like my friends and, I am like you. I&#8217;m like you in, in almost every way. We like playing D&amp;D late into the night and we like that old person smell in Mike&#8217;s basement, and we like biking to Melvald&#8217;s for malted milkshakes, and we like getting lost in the woods and getting lost in Family Video and arguing about what to rent and settling on &#8216;Holy Grail&#8217; for the millionth time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And we like Milk Duds in our popcorn with extra butter, and we like drinking Coke with Pop Rocks, and we like bike races and trading comics and NASA and Steve Martin and Lucky Charms and literally all the same things.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I just\u2014 I just\u2014 I\u2014 I don&#8217;t like girls. I mean, I do just\u2014 Just not like you guys do. And I had this crush on someone even though I know they&#8217;re not like me. But then I realised he&#8217;s just my Tammy, and by Tammy, I mean it was never about him. It was about me. And I thought I was finally OK with myself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But then today Vecna showed me what would happen if I did this, if I told you guys the truth. He showed me a future and in this future, some of you are just worried for me, worried that that things will be harder for me, and it just makes me feel like something&#8217;s wrong with me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I push you away and for the rest of us, we just drift apart more and more and more and more and more until I&#8217;m alone and I know none of that has happened and Vecna can&#8217;t see into the future but he can see into our minds and he knows things and it just felt so real. It felt so real.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Vecna showed him what would happen if he came out. But it was a lie. Everything Vecna said would happen if he came out, is actually what would have happened if he\u2019d stayed closeted. Will would always feel like something was wrong with him. He would eventually push all his friends away out of fear and they\u2019d all drift away and he would end up alone. And Vecna creates the mutual distrust it needs, and that&#8217;s how it wins.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But Will comes out anyway, despite his fears. And when he does, and he is accepted, and loved, at that moment Vecna loses its control over him, and the power it had over all of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Do you see what the filmmakers have done here?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This subplot of Will struggling to deal with his sexual orientation in 1980s America is a metaphor of our civil rights struggle. It was never just about how liberating it is for us to be able to, finally, at long last, live honest decent whole lives, but also about liberating society at large, for all of us to be able to live in a world where the all too human monsters among us no longer have power over us. All of us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">These filmmakers\/storytellers get it. That is so deeply gratifying.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which brings me to the other thing I am very gratified to see in this story: How the filmmakers handled with genuine sympathy Will\u2019s crush on Mike.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">El is Mike\u2019s true love. The advocates of a Mike and Will romance weren\u2019t giving us the clips that clearly showed that. I don\u2019t think it was meant to deceive, I think they just had a really bad case of confirmation bias. They were only seeing what they wanted to see in the scenes between Mike and Will and brushing off the scenes between Mike and El. If you didn\u2019t see how Mike felt about El before the finale you had to have during it. Mike is best friends with Will, but El is his true love. A romantic relationship between him and Will would have been contrived and disrespectful of the characters. <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Recall that scene where Will comes out took two twelve hour days to film. That was not just about getting Will\u2019s emotional state right, but also the characters watching it. During Will\u2019s coming out speech Mike, and this is something the filmmakers have confirmed, realizes for the first time that Will has a crush on him. The actors are good. During that scene you can see dawning awareness on Mike\u2019s face (Mike is played by Finn Wolfhard).<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In the next and final episode, as the team prepares for the final battle with Vecna, Mike has a talk with Will\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mike] Hey, um\u2026 What you said earlier at the Squawk\u2026 I\u2019m sorry. I mean, not sorry about what you said. That came out wrong. Or not came out wrong. Jesus Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Will] [chuckles] It\u2019s okay.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mike] No, it\u2019s\u2026 it\u2019s not. I should have been there for you, and I wasn\u2019t. And I guess I was just so self-absorbed that I couldn\u2019t see it. I just\u2026 I feel like an idiot, and I\u2026 [sighs] I\u2019m sorry.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Will] You don\u2019t have to be sorry. And you are not an idiot. You\u2019re not. It\u2019s just\u2026 I didn\u2019t even understand it myself for the longest time. I just\u2026 I think it needed to happen the way it happened. I needed to find my own way. But what matters is that you\u2019re still here, and you still think we can be friends.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">[Mike] Friends? No, thanks. Best friends. All right, come on. We\u2019ve got a planet to catch.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which brings me to this: After the final battle, Mike is bereft over losing El. Sheriff Hopper has a talk with him. It\u2019s worth embracing.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It&#8217;s not your fault. What happened is not your fault. El made her choice. Now it&#8217;s time for you to make yours. And the way I see it, you&#8217;ve got 2 roads ahead of you. You&#8217;ve got one road where you keep blaming yourself for what happened. You keep going over it in your head, what you could&#8217;ve done differently. You push people away, and you suffer, because that&#8217;s what you think you deserve. And then there&#8217;s another road, where you find a way to accept what happened. Find a way to accept her choice. Doesn&#8217;t mean you gotta like it, doesn&#8217;t mean you gotta understand it and never think about it. You just accept it. And you live the best goddamned life you can. I&#8217;ve been down that first road before, and I don&#8217;t recommend it.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There\u2019s something there about acceptance for the characters, and also the audience. For Mike, for Will, for the viewers who so deeply wanted that Mike and Will romance to happen. For all the loves that were lost. For all the loves that might have been but weren\u2019t. For everyone of us who were still in deeply love and the other just walked away. And maybe, especially, for all of us gay kids who had crushes that would never be on straight boys who just couldn\u2019t go there: It\u2019s not your fault. You can keep going over it in your head and wonder what you could have done differently. You can suffer alone because it\u2019s all you think you deserve. Or you can find a way to accept what happened and have a life, even if it wasn\u2019t the one you wished for. Doesn\u2019t mean you can never think about it. Denial just makes a fixation worse. You just accept what happened and live the best goddamned life you can.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I haven\u2019t actually watched Stranger Things, only clips of it on Facebook or YouTube. So going into this I have a patchy and disjointed understanding of its characters, its plots, and themes. 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